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Nov. 9th, 2005 @ 11:43 am A woman's choice? Or a kid's choice?
Proposition 73 Failed!

I can't believe that! It's ridiculous! Prop 73 (for the CA special election) was for parental notification of abortions for girls under 18. We're not talking consent here, just notification and it was struck down. I mean do parents actually want their daughters to undergo a risky medical procedure without their knowing it? It just violates all common sense.

A woman's choice is one thing, because she's an adult. But with kids? A doctor is always supposed to tell the parents about anything that involves their child's health. Why should abortion be any different?

(EDIT) What's even more unbelieveable is the No on Prop 73 website listed below. This slogan is "Their safety, our responsibility." Exactly. So how can the parents be responsible if they aren't allowed to know about it? And then they have the other slogan "If she can't come to me, I just want to keep her safe." Uh, since when do parents trust their child's safety to strangers anyway?
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From:alive_n_christ
Date:November 9th, 2005 08:05 pm (UTC)
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I'm with you there.

Talked with mom about it a bit on the way back from putting stuff in the oven and she said that their logistics would be that it'll make girls want to go get illegal abortions instead of telling their parents for fear of the parents becoming enraged and abusive. However, I was reading the site you linked to. It mentioned an alternative of going to a judge. Why can't that be considered to? If the girl has any fear of her parents becoming abusive because of it that can be righted, then she can go to the court and seek a signature on the release form from a judge.

If a girl can't get something like foot surgery done without her parent's signature on a release form, why should she be able to get an abortion, which is in many ways more major, without their consent?
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From:sold2christ
Date:November 9th, 2005 08:21 pm (UTC)
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Exactly, if pro-choice people think it's just "another medical procedure" then they should treat it as such with regards to minors.

*sighs* And people say I have no brain? Whatever.

This is the link I gave you, by the way. For future reference:

http://www.noonproposition73.org/

and then there's this: http://www.yeson73.net/
From:osnadurtha
Date:November 10th, 2005 04:49 am (UTC)
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And the girl can't get tattoos or piercings without the parents' consent as well.

I actually told someone this,and they said "but tattoos are PERMANENT!"

UH... SO ARE ABORTIONS!

Yanno?
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From:alive_n_christ
Date:November 10th, 2005 05:59 am (UTC)
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Exactly. Tattoos can be removed if you pay to have them, so really they're not completely permanent, but abortions have to be lived with forever, and for a girl to choose to have an abortion she needs to have some sort of support system. Friends aren't always the best. As they say, friends come and go, but family stays. I'll have to find the stats my teacher gave on abortion and the effect upon women. A great majority had suicidal thoughts and suicidal thoughts. And teen years, I know, can cause depression already. They just can't go through stuff alone like that. Abortion is a major decision in life.
From:osnadurtha
Date:November 10th, 2005 06:09 am (UTC)
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Amen.
From:soda_raison
Date:April 13th, 2006 06:27 am (UTC)
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since when were abortions forever?
From:osnadurtha
Date:April 13th, 2006 06:29 am (UTC)
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Since always.

If someone has a TAB, and the baby survives,
it's not an abortion. It's called a "missed AB."
From:soda_raison
Date:April 13th, 2006 06:37 am (UTC)
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Funny, I guess I'll just have to tell the countless number of woman who don't feel sorry for their abortions that they are suffering.
From:osnadurtha
Date:April 13th, 2006 06:40 am (UTC)
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1. I've changed my stance on that.

2. This comment makes no sense to the previous one from a few minutes ago.

What did you say? Oh yes.

"Abortions are forever?"

I'll repeat: Duh.

Unless you also know countless fetus zombies!
From:soda_raison
Date:April 13th, 2006 10:26 am (UTC)
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Fetus' matter about as much as my toenail clippings.
From:osnadurtha
Date:April 13th, 2006 03:45 pm (UTC)
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You seriously need to learn a thing or two about reading comprehension.
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From:heerodiscarded
Date:November 13th, 2006 03:16 am (UTC)
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That..just...depreses me, that a person would think ceasing a life is something not worthy of being notable/lasting/definite.
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From:crazykins__
Date:November 9th, 2005 10:14 pm (UTC)
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oh noez but wat abot the grlz wit abusive parnts!!111 lol those stupid proaborts want you to believe that that happens all the time when it actually rarely happens...most of the time kids are jus being irresponsible and just dont feel like telling their parents
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From:sold2christ
Date:November 10th, 2005 03:37 am (UTC)
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Yeah, funny how they seem to automatically assume the worst. As if most parents would physically abuse their daughters upon learning of a pregnancy. *sarcastic* Girls shouldn't have to face their fears. They should be able to run away from their problems and live with a horrible secret for years to come! Yeah, I'm sure that'll do wonders for the family relationships

*sighs* Our society is so messed up!
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From:ihartsnape
Date:November 10th, 2005 05:51 am (UTC)
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Yes, our society is messed up. They always seem to condone the exact opposite action of what really makes sense x_x
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From:longcleeve
Date:November 10th, 2005 12:26 am (UTC)
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oh no! CRAP!

that makes NO SENSE
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From:sold2christ
Date:November 10th, 2005 03:30 am (UTC)
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Welcome to the world of CA politics! :)

Such a strange world we live in when the government wants to take away parents' rights in the name of protecting the children, when that's exactly what parents want to do. Such backwards thinking is beyond me, brainless though some sluts perceieve me to be.